Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life. (John 4:13-14)

Monday, November 24, 2008

The Passing of One of the Greats - Professor Zane C. Hodges

Dear Free Grace Theology readers,

It is with heavy sorrow, and yet at the same time extreme joy, that I declare to you the passing on into eternity of one of the Greats in Christian instruction and example, Professor Zane Clark Hodges.

I believed in Christ for eternal life in 1993, and within a year I had a copy of Absolutely Free! in my hands. This book set the course for my theological instruction and practice. Over the years other books authored by Zane Hodges found their way onto my bookshelves and into my heart.

When I finally got the internet about 10 years ago, I found a website for his publishing company, Redencion Viva, and secured his email address. Over the last 10 years we have corresponded. He has always been available to answer my deepest questions about the Bible. In 2003, I finally met Zane Hodges in Texas, and shared the Lord's Supper on a Sunday morning at Victor Street Bible Chapel with him and had the privilege to take him out to dinner that night.

Since that time we have shared many profitable conversations on the phone and more correspondence via the internet. In March of this year I was able to once again meet him face to face at the Grace Evangelical Society's National Conference. For another time, I had the privilege to take him out to dinner and discuss the Bible and theology.

Zane Hodges and his ministry has changed my life. He was always a very patient man with me. I remember one conversation I had with him on the phone lasting over an hour talking about the doctrine of election. I don't know of any other person in the ministry who has had as great of accomplishments as Zane and yet who is so down to earth and willing to take time out to converse with the little guys like me.

It was Zane Hodges who taught me biblical synthesis. His views and positions on the Bible allow for all the parts to be taken at their face value without having to be mired down with the ad hoc inclusions of secondary assumptions. His take on the Bible rises above each fact, explaining them in such a way, in their context, as to mesh with and compliment each other.

His commentaries on James, 1 John, and Hebrews are second to none, explaining them so deeply, yet so simply.

I love listening to his sermons. He always gave them unique names and used the most interesting illustrations. He was a very well read man, and kept up on current events.

When I received the news about his passing today I was shocked and deeply saddened. I have fallen in love with this man and he has the dearest of places in my heart. He will be deeply missed! The Church has lost one of its Greats!

But the Lord has welcomed him, no doubt, with a "Well done, good and faithful servant. Enter into the joy of your Lord!"

I love you Zane!

"Oh Heavenly Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, thank you so much for the wisdom and insight into Your Word that you have given to Zane Hodges! Thank you that You have used him in the capacity that You have, and this for Your glory. You have blessed me and countless others through this humble servant of Yours. My walk with You has been enriched and edified by his ministry. Oh Lord! I await the day that the Lord Jesus Christ comes back, so that I may sit at His table, eating and drinking with Him. Oh Lord Jesus may my life and ministry be half of what Zane's is. Father, continue to use Zane Hodges' materials and teachings to your glory!"

Precious in the sight of the LORD
Is the death of His saints.
(Ps 116:15)

53 Comments:

Blogger David Wyatt said...

Bro. Antonio,

I truly am at a loss for words. This saint was a man who was more gracious than just about any believer I've ever known of, save my own Dad & my wife. Obviously I didn't agree with him on every point, but his graciousness & Christian statesmanship can never be genuinely questioned. I have learned much from him myself, & am so thankful that he shared teh gift God gave him with His church for His glory & our good. Maybe I can say more later, but I don't know that I could. I thank God he is with Him now & I know he is enjoying eternity already, & who knows how much more he will after the Bema & the rewards he most certainly will receive! I'm praying for you too, bro. Antonio. I know you're hurting now, as well as rejoicing. Take care my brother & God Bless you.

November 24, 2008 5:46 PM  
Blogger Sanctification said...

Antonio,

Thank you for writing this.

With compassion, Michele

November 24, 2008 7:13 PM  
Blogger Diane said...

Antonio......

AMEN to everything you said about Zane Hodges!!! We felt the same way about him. I read your article through tears.

"Thank you Lord for bringing Zane Hodges into our lives."

Dale and Diane Boring
P.S. You can read another tribute from wjc at Antonio's previous post.....
29th comment...
"Meeting Tomorrow With 2-4 LDS Missionaries"

November 24, 2008 7:52 PM  
Blogger goe said...

Antonio,

Thank you for this wonderful and heartfelt tribute you have written. I did not know him near as well as you, but I truly do love him. I wrote Zane a brief letter about a month ago to tell him what an answer to prayer he has been in my life. I told him that it was impossible for me to exaggerate how important he has been in saving me from despair and self-destruction. I had prayed for God to help me for many years, and He used Zane Hodges to answer those prayers. It is a sad loss for us, but great gain for Zane. He is now seeing the full glory of the One he loved face to face. Thank you Zane, for helping me understand the saving message--the living water. Thank you Lord Jesus, for answering my prayers through Zane Hodges.

Gary

November 24, 2008 8:52 PM  
Blogger Celestial Fundie said...

I feel so saddened to hear that.

November 25, 2008 6:18 AM  
Blogger J. Wendell said...

Antonio,
It's wonderful to have a spiritual hero and mentor. How glorious as well to know that he has gone on tho be in the heavenlies because of what his Lord did for him at the cross.

Abundantly yours,
John

It's good to know you, brother.

November 25, 2008 7:06 AM  
Blogger Biblicist said...

Gary McNees said:


The single person who made and makes the Gospel the clearest to me is Zane Hodges. Although I believed in Jesus for eternal life long before I heard of Zane, I went through many errors afterward, such as Calvinism. When I logged onto GES and saw the news of Zane's death I felt great sorrow. I never met Zane personally, (Planned to go to GES two years ago but was sick at the time). I've got all of Zane's books and even have many extra copies of his "Absolutely Free," and commentary on the epistles of John to give away to others. I rank Zane as not "one of the greats," but the most clear presenter of the Gospel I've ever read. I am sorry I missed seeing him in this life but have the consolation of KNOWING that I will see him later. I have listened to all his published sermons and watched his talks on DVD again and again. He strikes me as being the most mature Christian I've ever encountered. His guarded speech even toward those who maligned him speaks clearly of his conformity to our Lord.

November 25, 2008 7:29 AM  
Blogger Rose~ said...

Hi Antonio,
I, like Michele, also feel compassion for you as I know how very much this man meant to you, brother.

I think he was a great man of God. I just got done reading "Grace in Eclipse" and I think it was really good. I still like "Absolutely Free" the best so far. I also have his Epistles of John and James commentaries to get into. I have read many things from him that I thought were outstanding in their "sense" as I have told you - he just makes sense in most things I read from him.

I am looking forward to meeting him someday. You are blessed to have known him.

Shame on those who have deliberately and systematically savaged his reputation recently.

Praise the Lord for such a wonderful teacher of His Word!

I'm sorry if this comment was awkward as my head is full of many thoughts.

Matthew expressed it well.

November 25, 2008 8:56 AM  
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November 25, 2008 12:33 PM  
Blogger Sanctification said...

Rose,

Hodges was instrumental in modern free grace theology... wasn't he? I can't help but think that everyone is feeling loss.

Michele

November 25, 2008 2:27 PM  
Blogger Jonathan Perreault said...

Antonio,

I am sorry to hear of your loss.

"There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a time for every event under heaven -

A time to give birth, and a time to die; A time to plant, and a time to uproot what is planted. A time to kill, and a time to heal; A time to tear down, and a time to build up. A time to weep, and a time to laugh; A time to mourn, and a time to dance. A time to throw stones, and a time to gather stones; A time to embrace, and a time to shun embracing. A time to search, and a time to give up as lost; A time to keep, and a time to throw away. A time to tear apart, and a time to sew together; A time to be silent, and a time to speak. A time to love, and a time to hate; A time for war, and a time for peace." (Ecclesiastes 3:1-8)

JP

November 25, 2008 3:49 PM  
Blogger Jonathan Perreault said...

I have found Hodges commentaries on Hebrews, James, and 1, 2, 3 John to be very helpful. And the Majority Text is truly "a real contribution to New Testament textual criticism."

JP

November 25, 2008 3:52 PM  
Blogger Antonio said...

Dear all,

Thank you for the words and thoughts and prayers. I have been a bit of a wreck over this. When I learned of the news it was as if my own father passed away. The grief has been rather intense.

I am dealing with this crisis one day at a time and looking for my peace solely from the Lord whose timing is always perfect.

You all have been very encouraging.

I am planning to attend the funeral at Dr. Tony Evans church in the Dallas area on Tuesday of next week. I will try to take pictures of the people in attendance and give updates on the memorials.

I really need to go to this service for reasons of respect, honor, love, and a sense of peaceful closure.

Zane Hodges has meant more to me than can be expressed by words. The world has experienced the deep loss of a person who the world was not worthy of.

Soon Zane's worth will be measured at the Judgement Seat of Christ and he will receive that which he has done in the body. He will be honored by Jesus Christ in front of God the Father and the holy angels. I hope that I am able to attend that I may honor him as well.

His passing has made me more determined than ever to pursue peace with all men and holiness toward God.

He is greatly missed.

love and peace to you all,

Antonio

November 25, 2008 5:52 PM  
Blogger Antonio said...

Dear brother David,

Thanks for the thought and prayers. You always have a spirit of compassion and conciliation. You know that I have appreciated you for many years now. You are a humble and faithful servant of God.

Antonio

November 25, 2008 5:55 PM  
Blogger Antonio said...

Michele,

Whenever I see you pop in and out of places, I am always pleased and tickled. You have a patience and a determination that inspires me. I look forward to many great things from you in your earnest endeavors.

Antonio

November 25, 2008 5:56 PM  
Blogger Antonio said...

Diane,

Will you and Dale be able to make it to the memorial? I know that it is short notice and could be costly.

I talked to Kyle at the GES office today and he said that they are trying to work it out that the memorial will be streamed live from the internet.

You have been the most upbeat, gracious, lively, personable, and caring person who has graced this blog. I amaze at your love for the Lord and his servants and children. I hope to see you again soon and fellowship. Thanks for your avid participation on this blog.

Antonio

November 25, 2008 5:58 PM  
Blogger Antonio said...

Gary,

I know that you are newer on the scene here, but I have been greatly impressed by your command of the Scriptures, your arguments, and the wisdom of your writings. I have followed them with great interest and am always learning and edified by them. Please continue to keep and share the faith! If you ever want to write some guest articles here, I would be honored to publish them for you. Thanks for hanging around here. I read all your stuff here and wherever I can with my thinking cap on.

Thanks for the sentiments.

Antonio

November 25, 2008 6:02 PM  
Blogger Antonio said...

Matt,

You are young and intelligent. I look forward with great anticipation your contribution to the Free Grace movement. You have become so endeared to me. I honestly consider you one of my best friends. You have always been there for me, to talk to, to vent to, to rejoice and cry with.

Antonio

November 25, 2008 6:03 PM  
Blogger Antonio said...

John,

Oh how I have loved our conversations on the phone. Your voice has this soothing and calming nature and you always help me see things in a positive perspective. You are a very faithful man (and your occupation only is one sign of that, hehe) to your God, your wife, your family and your nation. You are a man of deep integrity and care, and I look forward to the day that we can have a barbeque together.

Thanks for your encouraging words.

Antonio

November 25, 2008 6:06 PM  
Blogger Diane said...

Thank you Antonio for those expressions of love for Zane.
These words that you said truly moved me.....

"Soon Zane's worth will be measured at the Judgement Seat of Christ and he will receive that which he has done in the body. He will be honored by Jesus Christ in front of God the Father and the holy angels. I hope that I am able to attend that I may honor him as well."

We know the love and the loss that you are feeling. God will continue to use him through his writings and through the men and women who have learned under him.

Yes, Dale and I are planning to attend the funeral service and the viewing Monday night. We love him. We, too, want to honor him by being there with others who love him.

Thanking God for our friend and teacher, Zane Hodges,
Diane (for Dale, too)

November 25, 2008 6:11 PM  
Blogger David Wyatt said...

Bro. Antonio,

You are very kind, & I know that you must be very sad, though joyful at the same time. It is great to look back & have no real regrets, since you gave bro. Hodges his due respect while he lived so that now your words ring true. I admire you & thank God for you & your love for our savior. May the Lord bless you especially this Thanksgiving.

November 25, 2008 7:24 PM  
Blogger Antonio said...

Gary McNees,

I have enjoyed our every interaction and have amazed at your very poignant questions you have posed. I am thankful that we are brothers and that Zane has impacted your life as much as mine.

Antonio

November 25, 2008 7:32 PM  
Blogger Antonio said...

Rose,

What can I say about the most reasonable woman I have ever met? (I know, some may balk at what they would consider an oxymoron "reasonable woman")

We have been through thick and thin and through agreement and doubt, yet we are friends and family forever. Thanks for your warm regards.

Doesn't your heart just long for the kingdom of God, Rose? I can't wait to experience it with you.

your forever brother,

Antonio

November 25, 2008 7:35 PM  
Blogger Antonio said...

JP,

My heart has grown fond of you as I read your articles that share your conviction. I think you know as well as I that I share with you many of them. I think of you and I feel love, brother.

I appreciate your regards for some of the works of Zane Hodges.

Antonio

PS: Did you see that you are in a footnote of Bob Wilkin's new article in the Journal of the Grace Evangelical Society exposing the rational and exegetical errors of J.B. Hixson's book?

November 25, 2008 7:40 PM  
Blogger Antonio said...

Diane,

I unfortunately don't think I will be able to be at the viewing. I did't know about it and my air plans won't get me there in time. Nevertheless, I think I would rather remember him alive than in a casket. My brother had an open casket when he died at 21 years of age. This was 23 years ago. When I try to recollect him, one of the first images is him in the casket.

I would like to be there with the people of God nevertheless.

I look forward to seeing you on Tuesday. Have a joyful Thanksgiving. We indeed have much to be thankful for.

Antonio

November 25, 2008 7:45 PM  
Blogger Diane said...

Hi Antonio,

I am sorry about your brother. Even though it's been 23 years since your brother died, I'm sure it seems like yesterday in some ways. I understand that feeling. My twin brother died at age 23 many years ago, and it seems like yesterday to me. When I saw him in a casket (which I remembering dreading), it just became very real to me that he wasn't there. He had moved out. It was so evident to me.
But I can understand how you want to remember Zane. I want to remember him that way, too.
I was just telling my husband tonight how very young and sharp Zane acted the last time I saw him. He didn't act old at all... just as sharp as ever. I want to remember him that way also.

I hope we get to see you Tuesday. I wish you and your family a wonderful Thanksgiving, too. Tell your family that we love them through you even though we've never met them.

Leaning on the Everlasting ONE,
Diane

November 25, 2008 8:08 PM  
Blogger alvin said...

Hi Antonio

I was very saddened when I went to the GES sight and saw Zanes picture and that he had died. He had a special place in my heart, I loved him so much. He was praying for my wife when she had cancer, and spoke many times on the phone with him.
My 15yr old computer chashed on Sunday, so I lost alot of Zanes e-mails. I'm using my wifes computer until I get a new one.
I just want to say I feel your lose, I held no one higher in this life then Zane I considered him my spiritual Father. I was hoping we would go together in the rapture, but that wasn't the Lords will. I know he will be close to the Lord, and that I might be outside looking through a window. But I am happy for him now because I know he is experincing the full joy of the Lords presence!

God bless you all
alvin

November 25, 2008 8:53 PM  
Blogger Diane said...

Alvin, so glad to hear from you. Some of us were wondering where you were. I'm glad you're OK and that you got the news about our dear friend and teacher, Zane Hodges. We knew you loved him, too. He will forever live in our hearts, and we'll see him again and thank him for teaching us about God's marvelous grace.

Diane

November 25, 2008 9:01 PM  
Blogger dreiher2 said...

Zane meant a lot to me too. I struggled for 14 years with understanding whether or not works were necessary for me to get to heaven.

I finally got straightened out by a Florida Bible College Grad named Bruce Lynam. I started attending a church started by 2 Florida Bible College grads John MacMurray and Rick Rodriguez. They had youth retreats at FBC and one year while I was there I picked up Zane's book "Gospel Under Seige." The light finally came on when I finally saw that some verses were talking about justification salvation (a free gift), and others were talking about sanctification/discipleship (which costs us).

I can remember calling directory assistance and getting the phone number for Redencion Viva. I was shocked that Zane answered the phone. I expressed how confused I was by the teachings of the churches I grew up in, and how his book helped me understand difficult passages in James and 1 John. I seem to recall that was 1978. I kept losing or giving away my copies and called him and got more copies.

I treasure the other opportunities I have had to talk with Zane through the years, primarily at GES conferences. I wish I had the opportunity to know him better.

I will be at the service next Tuesday. I look forward to seeing Antonio and others there. I look forward to hear what Tony Evans has to say.

I could probably stream it live the same way I did the GES2008 conference. I will talk to Kyle to see what he has in mind. I will post the link here if he wants to use my server.

In Christ,
Don Reiher
(Host of GES webboard)

November 25, 2008 9:27 PM  
Blogger alvin said...

Amen Diane!!!!

Zane was true to God's word, and taught us the simplicity that is in "The Christ." We are all so much richer for have known him.

goodnight
alvin

November 25, 2008 9:35 PM  
Blogger David Wyatt said...

You know, I was thinking last night, it is only appropriate that bro. Hodges is in that group that "rises first" in the Rapture

November 26, 2008 5:37 AM  
Blogger alvin said...

Right On David that's a good way to look at it, his will be the first blast on that trumpet, and we will be the last.


What a Day that will be
when my Jesus we will see
when He takes us by the hand
and leads us through the promised land!
What A Day!!! Glourious Day!!!
Brother Zane has came to that Day!!!
There will be no more sorrow over there!
No more burdens to bear!

November 26, 2008 8:46 AM  
Blogger alvin said...

I dont want to be too dogmatic on that though because today could be my day! But what ever the day we are ready because Zane taught us to focus on the bulls-eye, and that is the PROMISE of the Christ! And we all like little children have come to Jesus feet for that water He gives so freely!!!

November 26, 2008 9:00 AM  
Blogger Peggie said...

Antonio and all,
My husband and I will miss Zane,
although we saw him very seldom.
We use his literature in our Bible
study along with Bob's. He opened
the scriptures up to us.
I wish we could go and meet all
of you at the memorial.

Alvin, you quoted my favorite song.
It's lovely.
Blessings

November 26, 2008 1:40 PM  
Blogger alvin said...

Hi Peggie

I use to sing that song all the time when I had a care center ministry. That was one of their favorites, also Fire Like Jeremy. It's a song That was on the end of a VHS tape that my uncle had recored at my Grandmothers funeral. The first of it I couldn't make out so I started the song with "I've got a fire like Jeremy." Here are the words:

I’ve got a fire like Jeremy
I’m looking for the eastern sky
Anticipating all that is waiting over there
There is a longing in my soul . . in my soul . . in my soul
To walk and talk with Christ the King and saints of old
And I am waiting for the day . . for the day . . for the day
When I shall hear Jesus say welcome home . . . welcome home

Sometimes a way may seem so hard trying to live a life for God
But it will be worth it all some sweet day . . . . oh!
I’ve come too far to turn around for that old trumpet soon shall sound
And with all the saints I’ll leave the ground . . .yes I’ll fly away

There is a longing in my soul . . in my soul . . in my soul
To walk and talk with Christ the King and saints of old
And I am waiting for the day . . for the day . . for the day
When I shall hear Jesus say welcome home . . . . welcome home

Welcome Home Zane!!!!

November 26, 2008 8:30 PM  
Blogger anton said...

Hi Antonio,

My condolence at you loss.

But I rejoice that Dr Hodges is now with the Lord, listening to the welcoming words, "Well done, good and faithful servant..."

Anton

November 27, 2008 12:30 AM  
Blogger David Wyatt said...

Two great Grace teachers have gone to be with the Lord in the past couple months. Dr. Hank Lindstrom & now bro. Hodges.

November 28, 2008 5:18 PM  
Blogger dreiher2 said...

Bob and close friends of Zane have agreed to allow live webcasting of Zane's memorial service at 12/2 11AM Dallas time.

The link:
http://connect.palcs.org/fgconnect

I will open the room 15 minutes before the beginning of the service. Please log in as guest with your real name. No password will be required. Your name will be added to the guest list.

I will record the connect session. After the service is over, I will post the link to the recorded session on the fgconnect welcome page.

- Don Reiher

November 30, 2008 11:20 AM  
Blogger Diane said...

Friends,

I'm getting ready to leave tomorrow with my husband to go to Texas from N.W. Arkansas for Zane Hodges' memorial service. The reason we're going is because of the great love and appreciation we have for him for opening up the scriptures to us like no other. We were blessed to be taught well in the past, but Zane showed us truths that would have been forever locked to us if it were not for his dedication to the study of the Word of God, and the books and articles that he has written. The Lord honored his dedication in the study of God's Word by revealing truth to him. God promises to do that to those who come before Him with an honest and open heart. I can't even begin to tell you the joys that have come to us because of what this man showed us in the Word. I want to make it clear that it was not the man we were following. The man was the vehicle that God used to teach us, and it was a fantastic ride!!! He took us step by step by step through the Bible showing us how all the pieces fit together. I didn't take his word for it. I checked everything out over and over and over. I found that what he was teaching me was scriptural. I want to say to all those reading this.... I was convinced that what Zane Hodges was teaching was true BECAUSE I checked it out very carefully. I saw it!!! I understood. It was biblical. And those who are now accusing him of things like teaching a "crossless gospel" don't know what they're talking about. Something is very wrong in what they are doing to this good man's reputation. They have misunderstood him, or have deliberately closed their mind to seeing it. I'm not their judge. I don't know their motives. But I know what I've seen in the scriptures, and I've seen truth. For those who are accusing him of heresy, I just challenge and recommend that you get all of his books and read them. Get his Book "The Atonement" and see if you can still say he's preaching a "crossless gospel." No way!!!

I recently read an article that quotes Zane's writing from "The Gospel Under Siege," showing that he has changed what he once believed. They quote him here......
So what about you? Where do you look for peace and assurance of salvation? Are you asking, "Have I done enough to prove I am saved?" Or is the question instead, "Has Christ done enough on the cross to save me, whatever my faults and failures are or may become?" Does your entire hope for heaven rest on what He has done and not at all on what you can, have, or will, do? If your answer to this last question is yes, then--- clearly!--- you have believed the Gospel and you already know that your eternal destiny is secure. Let it be said plainly: any system of doctrine that forbids us to find complete peace by simply looking to God's Son, who was lifted up for us on the cross, can by no means claim to be the true Gospel. But if it is not, then it must be a false gospel and must stand under the anathema Paul pronounced in Galatians 1.
[Zane C. Hodges, The gospel Under Siege, 2nd ed.]

Friends, I don't see this as changing his mind. Zane knows that nobody can be saved if Christ didn't die for our sins. Christ death on the cross was sufficient. It's all about what He did..... not what we must do. Whenever we get the chance to share about Christ death and resurrection, we will proclaim it far and wide. People who would reject that truth would also reject Christ free salvation through faith alone in Him. A part from Christ sacrificial death on the cross, nobody could be saved. Zane has always preached that and believed that. In John, Christ death and resurrection is the 8th sign, written for the purpose of bringing someone to believe in Jesus Christ for everlasting life. Zane has never denied that. Here's what he's doing......

Zane's bringing to our attention the PLACE we must come to to be born again. Understanding the cross work of Christ is to awaken a person to the fact of WHY Jesus died...... TO GIVE HIM ETERNAL LIFE BY BELIEVING IN JESUS ALONE FOR IT!!!!!
Nobody is saying DON'T PREACH THE CROSS..... DON'T TELL SOMEONE TO BELIEVE IN THE CROSS OF CHRIST..... DON'T TELL ANYONE THAT JESUS IS GOD....... DON'T TELL ANYONE TO BELIEVE THAT HE ROSE FROM THE GRAVE, etc., etc.
Of course we're going to share the crosswork of Christ when we get the chance, but we want people to understand this...... that what saves them eternally is when they believe in Jesus Christ alone to save them eternally.
People DO get saved without knowing about the crosswork of Christ just like they did in the O.T. dispensation.
Remember that little 3 year old girl I told you about? She believed that Jesus was the giver of everlasting life. She was saved if we are to believe Jesus' promise in John 3:16 and other places. God doesn't lie. Later she learned about HOW He provided for eternal life.
Remember that native man in the tribe who believed that Jesus was the giver of eternal life when he read a genealogy? He had to have had some knowledge of Jesus to get to the place where he believed in Him for everlasting life, but he learned about the cross AFTER he was saved. Why was he saved? Because he believed Jesus' promise of giving everlasting life to those who believe in Him.
NOBODY who believes in Jesus FIRST for everlasting life is going to REJECT His crosswork and resurrection when presented with it because salvation is a work of the Holy Spirit. Why would they believe in Him at first, and then reject His crosswork when they learn about it. They wouldn't...... just like the disciples.

Zane Hodges, nor I, nor GES are saying that we don't want people to believe that Jesus died on the cross for their sins to be saved. We DO want them to believe that, but we also want people to know WHAT THE SAVING CONTENT IS to be believed to be saved.
***Those Zane calls Theological Legalists are those who DENY that someone believing in Jesus for everlasting life are NOT saved IF they don't FIRST believe the essentials of His crosswork.***
Remember...... none of the disciples believed that FIRST, yet they were saved. The content to be believed did not change, but now we know of the cross and most of us get saved today BECAUSE of that wonderful truth.
BUT DON'T BE A THEOLOGICAL LEGALIST BY **REQUIRING** SOMETHING TO BE BELIEVED FIRST THAT GOD DID NOT REQUIRE.
That's all Zane Hodges is saying, and that's all that I am saying.

"Thank you Father for sending your Son into the world to give us the wonderful gift of everlasting life to all who believe in Him."

Zane believed. He was faithful to the end. He is in the presence of His Savior, and he will receive the rewards done in the body by the God who judges all men fairly as told to us in His Word.

Rejoicing in the promotion of Zane Hodges to glory,
Diane

November 30, 2008 10:10 PM  
Blogger alvin said...

AMEN and AMEN!!!!!

Very clear Diane!!!


Have a Great Day IN the Lord!!!

December 01, 2008 6:22 AM  
Blogger Rose~ said...

Diane, what you have said is very reasonable. I don't think you or ZH or BW or Alvin or Antonio or any of the other friends here remotely resemble someone worthy of the label "heretic." It is absurd at *best.* You all are a blessing and my thinking has been stretched, challenged and I have grown as a result of reading and interacting with you all.

I am thinking of all of you. I love you all in the Lord.

Antonio, I have you in my prayers.

December 01, 2008 6:25 AM  
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December 01, 2008 11:32 AM  
Blogger Sanctification said...

Diane & Rose,

I'm studying the issue of why heresy is so central to the practice of some faiths, at my blog.

This has been a long time in the works. I invite you to read along according to your own stomach.

Thanks... Michele

December 01, 2008 5:21 PM  
Blogger dreiher2 said...

To listen to the recorded adobe session go to

http://connect.palcs.org/p37696551

I missed the first 10 minutes of the service. I will see if I can fix it once I get home.

The service was close to 2 hours.

Make sure nothing else is running (like aol or im) while you listen to the service.

The whole service is available on DVD.

The service was great. . . 62 people attended via the web.

- Don

December 02, 2008 3:35 PM  
Blogger Diane said...

Dear Friends,

This was a day I will NEVER forget!!! A day that impacted my life forever.....
The Memorial Service of Zane Hodges that gave glory to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!!!
I'm so VERY GLAD I went!!! It was a blessing beyond blessings!!!
How I thank God for bringing Zane Hodges into my life who taught me by word and example how to love my Savior more intimately.

My husband's words to me were....
"I was challenged."
My words to him.....
"I was impacted for eternity!"
We were all challenged to impact lives for Jesus.

The memorial service consisted of a number of men (and a couple women) who said a few words about Zane and how he impacted their lives for Christ. They only spoke for a few minutes (3 to 5 maybe). Some of those were Bob Wilkin, Luis Rodriguez, Bob Vacendak, Arch Rutherford, Bob Bryant, John Niemela, Glickman, Dr. Radmacher, Robert Calhoun (Zane's business partner), Mike Lii, Tony Evans' sister (speaking for the Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship Church Family where Zane had been attending recently), and then Tony Evans bringing the main message. It was such a good day!!!
***I can't wait to hear what Antonio has to say about it!!!***

Friends, I hope you'll get a CD or DVD of the memorial service and FIND OUT what it was about Zane Hodges that changed the lives of all these people. He impacted all of our lives for Christ. We've never been the same since!!! This is why we love Zane Hodges. He opened our eyes to see truths in the scriptures that changed us forever. Here's one example that was mentioned...... opening our eyes to see the difference between entering the Kingdom and inheriting the Kingdom. This is why we were there at the memorial service. We loved him for that. We will miss him so much!!!

Also, last night was a blessing. We went to the visitation at the funeral home, and it was packed (2 small rooms) with lots of dear Hispanic friends from Zane's former church of many years (Victor Street Bible Church). Young and old..... they were there because they loved him so!
Luis Rodriguez (Zane's long time friend) spoke to all of us for just a few minutes and told a little about Zane. He said that Zane loved each and every one of them. He considered each one a friend. He never looked at a person as just somebody unimportant. Zane lived his life being a friend to people and truly loving them. Then he read scripture. Luis challenged all of us to love people like that and to be a friend like that according to the scriptures. BTW.... Zane wrote a book years ago about Luis' life. It's called "Here Walks My Enemy."

I can't put into words the blessing that was mine today by attending the service for Zane Hodges. I just thank the Lord for bringing him into my path to teach me deep and wonderful truths about my Savior and my eternal home.

Rose, I love you and thank God that he brought me to your blog. You are so honest and your love for the Lord shines through. Thank you for your kinds words.

Michele, thank you for inviting me to look at your blog. I plan on doing that just as soon as I get caught up on my e-mails. I know you love Dr. Radmacher, so I hope you get the chance to hear him speak at today's Memorial Service. You'll be blessed.

Alvin, I ALWAYS love reading everything you write. You would have loved being there today.

Don, thank you for putting the memorial service on the blog. The sound came through beautifully. Wasn't it a GREAT celebration!!!

I'll end this with something Tony Evans said today (paraphrased).....
"Zane has left the Land of the Dead to go to the Land of the Living!!!"

In His Matchless grace,
Diane
:-)

December 02, 2008 8:55 PM  
Blogger alvin said...

Hi Diane thank yoo for the report. I'm looking forward to getting the DVD of the service. And thank you Don for putting it out over the internet. I came into the very end of the service. Cal time and Wash time are the same but I guess Cal doesn't do the daylight savings time change so I was an hour late. But I seen Rose and Michele and Gary say hi. I bought many of Zanes books about Luis life story and gave many away to my hispanic friends and nieghbors.

Have a great day in the Lord everyone!
alvin

December 03, 2008 4:23 AM  
Blogger Peggie said...

Alvin,
I have never heard the song you quoted, but I love the words.
Some of the old hymns are such a
comfort to sing.
My husband and I were at home watching Zane's funeral. He left
so many "children" who love him.

Antonio, Hope you got back home safely.

December 04, 2008 9:37 AM  
Blogger Peggie said...

Diane, Glad you and your husband got
home safely. I know it was a blessing being there. We were blessed watching at home, but of course wishing we were there to fellowship with everyone.
Don, I appreciate your making it possible to see the service.

December 04, 2008 2:45 PM  
Blogger Diane said...

Hi Peggy,

I'm glad you got to view Zane's memorial service over the Internet. It was a wonderful blessing..... one I will never forget. It impacted my life forever.

Two major things I will always remember about Zane Hodges.

1. He knew the scriptures and was so very careful to be true to every detail as he understood it.

2. He was a humble man who cared about ordinary people as well as seminary professors, and he loved them all. He was a beautiful example of Jesus words in the Upper Room Discourse.....

John 13:34-35.....
"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."


Peggy, I would love to meet you sometime. Is there any chance you can come to the next GES Conference the end of March?

A friend because of Jesus,
Diane
:-)

December 04, 2008 5:38 PM  
Blogger dreiher2 said...

I just finished the production work on the DVD. I am shipping the master off to Bob this morning.

Bob asked me about putting together some compilations of Zane's messages (i.e. audio & video). I will be working on that next. I know I have some favorites I want to include.

- Don

December 05, 2008 7:14 AM  
Blogger Diane said...

Thanks Don,

We appreciate so much what you are doing!!!!

Dale and Diane

December 05, 2008 9:02 AM  
Blogger Peggie said...

Diane,
I don't know if we will be at the GES Conference or not. We use to go regularly, but for the past 3 or 4 years have been unable to make it, because of one thing or another.
(age, money, etc.)
we would love to be there and will
be if we can. I would love to meet
all my online friends face to face.
God bless you all.

December 05, 2008 10:54 AM  
Blogger alvin said...

When I saw Zanes father’s first name Zebulon it reminded me of what I had studied out a few days ago.

Yes the Scriptures are precise in Micah 5:2 stating Bethlehem Ephrathah because there was a Bethlehem in the territory Zebulon which is where Nazareth is located in lower Galilee. Nazareth being 70 miles north of Jerusalem and Bethlehem Ephtrathah being 6 miles south of Jeruslem.



“The land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali,
By way of the sea, beyond the Jordan,
Galilee of the Gentiles:
The people who sat in darkness
Have seen a great light,
And upon those who sat in darkness
Have seen a great light,
And upon those who sat in the
region and shadow of death
Light has dawned.”
Isa 9:1-2; Matt 4:14-16
Naphtali means wrestling and he was the sixth son of Jacob, and second of Bilhah Rachel’s maid.
Zebulun means dwelling and he was the tenth son of Jacob, and sixth of Leah.
Their territory was in Galilee which is Zebulon, East of Asher and North of Zebulun

Nathanael said “Can anything good come out of Nazareth?” Just before the Light dawned on him.. .Ha!Ha!

alvin

December 06, 2008 4:33 PM  

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